Tim Allen Discusses ‘The Santa Clauses” Series and Trending on Twitter

The metro Detroit star鈥檚 new series, 鈥漈he Santa Clauses鈥 starts streaming on Disney+ Nov. 16.
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Tim Allen in "The Santa Clauses," which is set to release on Nov. 16. Photograph courtesy of Disney+/James Clark.

When the Birmingham-reared comedy legend who agrees to talk about the new rendition of his holiday movie classic suddenly begins trending on Twitter the night before, it鈥檚 almost impossible not to fear the worst these days. After all, we鈥檙e not getting any younger.

Worry not. Tim Allen, we鈥檙e pleased to report, is alive, well, enthused to discuss his six-part spinoff The Santa Clauses streaming on Disney+ beginning Nov. 16鈥nd a bit bewildered.

鈥淲hat did I do now?鈥 he asks by phone from Los Angeles, genuinely unaware. 鈥淣o, I didn鈥檛 know I blew up Twitter. What did I do?鈥

What he did was to ask a seemingly innocent (and hopefully humorous) question about the 鈥渨oke鈥 generation that prides itself on being actively aware of important societal issues, especially those regarding race and social justice. Allen wrote on Oct. 18:

鈥淲ho is the face of woke. Do wokees have a club house in someone鈥檚 backyard or maybe a cute yet safe playpen somewhere?鈥欌

That seemingly lighthearted inquiry generated nearly 60,000 likes and 21,000 replies. Most of them quite unpleasant.

鈥淚t was a philosophical inquiry,鈥 he maintains. 鈥淎nd then I did a comedy bit. I was listening to (former President) Barack Obama the other day use the word 鈥榖uzzkills鈥 about his own party (on the 鈥溾 podcast) and say we鈥檙e getting tired of walking on eggshells. So when he said that I went, 鈥極h! So maybe we can turn this light around. What is 鈥榳oke?鈥欌

A disturbing number of Twitter respondents quickly found access to and attached Allen鈥檚 mugshot from his 1978 arrest for drug trafficking cocaine, leading to his spending two years and four months in a federal prison, with their replies. 鈥淐an鈥檛 really say who is the face of woke,鈥 one wrote, 鈥渂ut we know the face of coke.鈥

Sadly, the disparaging remarks don鈥檛 surprise him. 鈥淚mmediately people go back to that prison sentence I got involved in back when I was like 26,鈥 says Allen, 69. 鈥淚 don鈥檛 ever respond to anybody, but I always wonder.鈥

鈥淎s far as I understand it, the way it works in this country is you do your time, and then you鈥檙e done. You don鈥檛 keep being punished for the crime you already committed. I鈥檝e been sober, without drugs or alcohol in my system, for almost 25 years, I鈥檝e gone and raised a family and I鈥檓 past all that. But they keep reminding me of that prison picture.鈥

So much so that Allen, owner of two of the most successful sitcoms in modern TV history with Home Improvement and Last Man Standing, has begun using the mugshot to promote his ongoing standup comedy tour. 鈥淪o we鈥檙e all aware of that,鈥 he cracks.

For the moment, he鈥檇 prefer everyone be aware of , which plays out in six chapters (he doesn鈥檛 like the word 鈥渆pisodes鈥) beginning in November. What could possibly convince him to put on the character of jolly ol鈥 Scott Calvin, the toy salesman who reluctantly assumes the role of Santa after the Big Guy falls off his roof, 16 years after the release of the last big-screen sequel, ?

The script, he says.

And while he鈥檚 hesitant to admit it, Allen suspects the Disney+ edition may be at least the equal of any of its widescreen predecessors.

鈥淣umber three was arguably overproduced, in my opinion,鈥 he reflects. 鈥淭wo (the sequel released in 2002) was the frickin鈥 best, because we had more money, more time, and it was really well-scripted. Three just had too many loose ends. So, when Dana Walden (chairman of Disney General Entertainment Content) got ahold of me and asked, 鈥榃ould you be interested in rebooting Santa Clause?鈥 it came out of the blue. But I said I was interested because she was the supporter of Last Man Standing who got it moved from ABC to FOX, just a terrific boss.鈥

But ho-ho-hold on, not so fast. 鈥淚 told her, 鈥楩irst you鈥檝e got to find a script,鈥欌 Allen remembers. 鈥淪he goes, 鈥楬ow about more of a streaming situation?鈥 I went, 鈥極h, boy. The joke was, it鈥檚 a movie to get me interested, it鈥檚 a TV show to get me paid.鈥

Allen asked to see the first, third and last scripts before he would commit. 鈥淐hapter One took a while to get right and kept changing, because I鈥檓 literally the only one left who knew about Santa鈥檚 history and I鈥檝e always had some questions.鈥

鈥淲hy didn鈥檛 the elves seem bothered by some guy who shows up at the North Pole? What happened to the guy who slipped off the roof? And why didn鈥檛 Mrs. Claus notice? Well, they answered all those questions, and they did it in a very clever way. And I kept telling the writers, 鈥業t is a 鈥楥hrist-mass鈥 movie, His birthday, so you鈥檙e going to have to mention Jesus at some point.鈥 They stretched themselves and came out with a wonderful thing.鈥

The basic premise is that Calvin, at 65, realizes he can鈥檛 be Santa forever and begins auditioning replacements for his job. (You may already have seen Payton Manning in the promo clips.) Stagecraft and technological advancements since Santa Clause 3 cut Allen鈥檚 time in the makeup chair in half, from four to two hours daily.

鈥淚 love lighting, sound, and staging,鈥 he says. 鈥淓verything about them is our gift to the audience. That鈥檚 all we do this for. It isn鈥檛 for us. And we got a great group that pushed the envelope. The colors, the backgrounds, the costumes, they鈥檙e brilliant.鈥

To top it all, The Santa Clauses gave Allen a surprise gift he never saw coming: the chance to perform opposite his youngest daughter, 12-year-old Elizabeth Allen-Dick, in her acting debut.

鈥淢y plan was to surprise her with an offer to be an elf in the background,鈥 says Allen, who also serves as an executive producer of the miniseries. 鈥淚鈥檓 not a nepotistic type of person, people earn their positions, but I just asked if she could run past and wave at me. They said yes, but she should read for the part. I didn鈥檛 plan for her to say anything, but they explained even if she just says, 鈥楬i, Santa,鈥 she would have to read for SAG (the Screen Actors Guild).鈥

Genetics took over. The more she read, the more impressed casting directors, producers, and Disney executives became. Against Allen鈥檚 better judgment, Elizabeth ultimately won the role of Scott Calvin鈥檚 youngest daughter, Sandra Claus.

鈥淪he鈥檚 in school, I didn鈥檛 think she had time for this,鈥 says Allen, 鈥渁nd part of me doesn鈥檛 want her in show business. But when I heard her, I went, 鈥楧amn!鈥 It came out of nowhere, and she got all the gags. The other part is, it鈥檚 a magic moment to play a scene with your kid.

鈥淚 can鈥檛 describe the emotions,鈥 he reflects. 鈥淭here鈥檚 one scene, outdoors at the North Pole, that chokes me up. She says, 鈥業鈥檓 scared.鈥 I hug her and say, 鈥業鈥檓 scared, too. But I will be much happier if I could be scared with you.鈥 It鈥檚 a life-changing event. It鈥檚 already happened, but I still think about it every day.鈥